Lecture by Richard Packham. Uploaded to YouTube with his explicit permission. “Since the talk was given before the 2005 changes in the washing and anointing, that part is only of historical interest.” Originally uploaded to video.google.com Based largely on article at packham.n4m.org
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I want to encourage you to give your life to Christ. We are to submit ourselves unto Christ. I challenge you to watch a movie,…”Faith Like Potatoes”,… this will give you a much needed insight in living a life submitted to Gods will. It is a prayful life, one that waits upon the Lord. It most certainly is a challenging life. We are most certainly stretched, God wants to bless us but can’t if we are operating outside of His will. Please watch the movie,… You’ll see God working first hand.
You have chosen unwisely. How can you believe that Jesus Christ’s brother is Satan? That is your belief system. Hebrews 1 speaks against this. Satan is a fallen angel. Jesus Christ is the ONLY begotten SON of God. Hebrews 1:5 ask the question that you should be asking. Put away your book of mormon. It is NOT scripture. You need to rely wholly upon the Word of God. II Timothy 3:16-17 tells you that the Word of God is all we need, we are thoroughly furnished by it and need no other book, NONE!
I chose TRUE CHRISTIANITY. It’s found in Mormonism.
He does not mean to mock, yet uses the BOM as scripture to say that he is fulfilling prophecy within it? He was active over 50 years ago? Has anyone ever met a person who has left any church over 50 years ago? How much do they remember? What type of spirit do they have toward that organization? What agenda do they hold? Not mocking? Nice white clothing! I’m sure you walk around in that everywhere! His mocking lies within the first 5 min reveal his true nature. The nature of lies.
This is a recount of his own existence. This is prophetic of what will come. Start at vs. 3 of chapter 14. This has not happened yet. Also, just because it calls him son of the dawn, is that supposed to be translated Son of the Most High God!? Certainly NOT. He was an angel in heaven, and is now a fallen angel. He had one of the highest positions in heaven. As far as the genealogy of Jesus Christ,…. ? what does that have to do with only begotten? Why don’t you read a bit further.
Try vs. 18 on for size, where it speaks of how Mary was found to be with child,….”through the Holy Spirit”. And then,.. vs. 23 the virgin gave birth to a son, who will be called, Emmanuel, meaning… “God with us.” Jesus is God, just read John 1 – 2:6, then of course John 3:16-17. I wrestle, not fight, against,… Ephesians 6:12. You are the one fighting, “against the Saints and Church of God but don’t understand.” May the Most High God reveal His Truth to you.
Okay LukeAir,…. You tell me then,…. What does it take to be saved? I really want to know. Do you know? Tell me.
Christianity,… has no secrets. Your belief system is FULL of secrets! I challenge you to rethink why you are defending this belief system. Not just because I became a Mormon and I’m going to not change because that will show that maybe I was wrong, and now I’m going to go down with the ship. You are living in eternity NOW. Once you die,..it is sealed forever, and your best intentions on the day of judgement won’t be enough to keep you out of the confines of hell. Father God, Reveal Truth
Christians,”Greater is He who is in you, than he who is in the world.” You have no need to be fearful of Mormons, however, if you are not founded in your faith, they may very easily sway you to their thinking. My family, we pray that God will have His way with anyone who comes onto our property. That they will be stripped from any incumberences and be at the mercy of the Most High God in Heaven, & that Jesus would be high and lifted up. Never fails,.. Mormons can’t speak effectively at our home.
True prophets,…. ARE NEVER WRONG. They were however, put to death in biblical times. How many times have your LDS prophets been wrong? I’d like you to look that one up.
The God I believe in says that He never changes. He is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. Sooo,… if your prophets are getting their info from “God”, hmmmm,… what god are they getting it from? Just something for you to consider. Father God,.. please remove the blinders from their eyes that they may see you.
What does it take to be saved? What is LDS teaching on this? sum it up for me. Thanks.
Acts 4:12 (King James Version)
12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
How is it that your belief system teaches that the man will call his wife into heaven? Where is that in the Word of God? ( That would be “the Bible”) Not the book of mormon.
That’s just a bit “being FULL OF ONES SELF”. Ask one of your elders. One thing to remember is,… as long as Satan keeps humans from knowing God, our Creator,….. he has succeeded.
Every human prophet except Jesus was wrong at times.
SO WHAT!
Luke..
Your so right!
Joseph Smith’s King Follet Discourse says that God was an exalted man and that you have to learn how to be gods yourselves. Mormonism is a polytheistic religion. Biblical Christianity has always maintain a montheistic view that there is only one God(Duet. 6:4, Mark 12:29 1Cor. 8:4,6 Gal. 3:20 and 1Tim. 2:5). In Isaiah 43:10 is says “Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me. No mormon is going to make it. NOBODY’S going to make it. There is only one God. PERIOD!!!
You responded to me,…
“Every human prophet except Jesus was wrong at times.
SO WHAT!”
I’d like you to show me in the Bible where those are. And then,… tell me what happened to the false prophet. Thanks.
You don’t get it. I want you to tell me,…. what it takes to be saved, as a Mormon. I know what it takes to be saved, as a Christian, and I have done that. You, tell me, what it takes to be saved in your belief system. Thanks.
LOL,… You ARE AMAZING! LOL How is it that you can get things, soooo messed up?! lol. where do you get the notion that I don’t believe all of the Bible? lol. And what does my “name reveal” that I have no intention of repenting? lol. And YOU,… will find no where in the Bible, that speaks about us assuming godhood or anything like it. God is God. He will not succumb to another, god. There is no other God, but Him. He knows of no other, and there will be no other. Got it?!
Just compare what the Mormon belief says or prints, with the Word of God,.. The Bible. You will find discrepencies that are very relevant. You will be told that “The Book of Mormon” fills in the blanks, where The Bible is missing. That is a lie, and the The Bible speaks about teaching another gospel,.. it is a BAD THING to do. Paul the Apostle states in Galatians 1:6,”I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel. Read Gal1:1-24
Look it up!
Packham is now a professed Atheist, yet “Christians” continue to bash the LDS church members, all of whom have accepted Jesus Christ as their God and Savior, yet don’t care about the atheist in the video.
I have repeatedly read both. The “gospel” is this: that Jesus is the only Savior of the world. The Book of Mormon contains the experiences of people who believed in Jesus and preached His gospel in the Americas. In Gal. 1:6 Paul says “another gospel” referring to the Judaizers who preached that salvation came through Jesus AND the law of Moses (circa AD 57). That is the “other” gospel he refers to. I love the gospel and knowing that other people believed it elsewhere strengthens my faith!