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Mormon Temples – Ancient temple sacred objects
Mormon Temples – Ancient temple sacred objects: Menorah, Showbread, Alter of Incense, and The Veil of the Temple. Holy Place, the Tabernacle of Moses contained the following areas and objects: # The Gate # Brazen Altar and the Tabernacle Sacrifices # Laver (Basin) # Menorah (Lampstand) # Table of Showbread # Golden Altar of Incense # Holy of Holies and the Veil # Ark of the Covenant To find out more about Mormons, visit www.mormon.org To speak to a Mormon visit http…
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Or does the “all purpose torn veil” cover that too. Half your facts are sectarian nonsense, that was adopted to fit the fact that the priesthood, and the true covenants and ordinances were lost(if they indeed ever had all that was intended) to the “so called” Christian world about 1800 years ago.
As far as temples being the same today, what is your expertise in what God would like to have represented in his temple? And if the veil is as you put it, obselete, why wouldn’t some other things be redundant as well? You’re argument contradicts itself.
My statement regarding Jesus being in the presence of His people being a Scriptural fact versus a theory was in response to your comment regarding it being a theory. I don’t know what your beliefs are personally, but Christians believe that Scripture is true & factual, not theoretical. With that said, the idea of a particular “place” becoming “holy ” (like a temple or something) is not applicable to this dispensation. Jesus was clear that God is more concerned with truth rather then locality.
Look, the whole LDS story of the priesthood is nonsense. Neither you (assuming you’re a male) or any other male within the LDS Church hold any priesthood because neither one meets the qualifications. Take the Levitical priesthood, for instance. You have 12 year olds holding it when the Bible states that one first must be a descendant of Aaron & that they must be in the prime of manhood. 12 years old is not the prime of manhood. Sorry.
Well, I have Scripture. What else would you expect me to have? Scripture states very clearly what the temple was for and the LDS temples have nothing in common with that purpose. The LDS temples are more in common with masonic temples than the Biblical one. Who do you think you’re fooling here? Get real.
You are deliberately misrepresenting my statement about how the doctrine of 2 or 3 witnesses is used by some to disqualify the need for temples, by saying I was saying that doctrine was a theory, and by hiding behind your non sequitar fallacy (“like a temple or something) is not applicable to this dispensation. Jesus was clear that God is more concerned with truth rather then locality”.) Spare me that feigned naivity.
I meant naivety, but playing dumb, says it better
What is curious as well as that what suits you is automatically obselete, but what is not such as old temple rites, makes modern day rites non binding, and ridiculous. Bit of a double standard, typical anti mormon tactic, along with saying the bible suppoorts you’re position without clarifying. Another logical fallacy (IE arguement from silece)
Again the double standard about OT rules being in force,when it comes to the priesthood. Face it, your arguements are taken from your own point of view, sectarian nonsense, and have nothing to do with any revelation, or scriptural fact
It was not my intention to deliberately misrepresent anything you’ve stated. I can only respond to what which you post. Perhaps proof-reading what you type to see how it’s going to come across to a reader would help prevent anything like that happening in the future. As for as my comment regarding the uselessness of temples in this dispensation, it’s not naive at all. There’s no use for the temple. The fact that the veil was torn & the structure was destroyed in 70 AD is very telling.
What suits me? I never disclosed what suits me. You’re overreacting just because I happened to disagree with something you believe in. That’s not a crime. And please don’t resort to calling me an “anti-Mormon” just because I happen to disagree with Mormonism. That’s petty and will get you no where. The fact is that the temple rites in Scripture and those in the LDS temples are completely different. Do yourself a favor and examine this topic rather than lambasting me with baseless allegations.
My own point of view? Since when did I write the Pentateuch? After all, that is where my information is coming from. Have you ever read the qualifications of those who hold the priesthood in Scripture? I suggest you do so before you continue this escapade. You just might learn something that you previously didn’t know.
First of all, stop hiding behind the semantics of the language you use. Anybody can see through it. What are you a politician? What suits you = what you claim. What are we doing here, debating the language or your postulations or the facts.? You make no sense. And you were the one who first posted here that the claims in this video were erroneous, to me that is an anti mormon posture. Or is this more grey area of language? Like I should have said semi anti-Mormon
“Look, the whole LDS story of the priesthood is nonsense”. That statement is not anti-Mormon? The Levitical as you call it, or Aaronic priesthood is under God’s authority, and can be held by anyone it pleases God to hold it. The same goes for any other priesthood.
You’re baseless claim that it cannot, doesn’t change that. It’s a prepatory priesthood in this dispensation, and it’s higher functions have been replaced by the higher priesthood. Whether you believe it, or not, doesn’t change a thing. Different dispensation, different rules, you used the same claim earlier, with your offerings on the veil.
escapade? What in the world are you talking about? I know what the first five books of Moses are, I also know what the NT says. So please don’t talk down to me. My claims don’t all need to be demonstrated through the lens of the OT, it’s for the most part laws that have been done away with through the atonement.
Just because Levi was the tribe that held the priesthood then, it doesn’t mean the priesthood itself is obselete if no Levite’s can be identified to hold it. Kind of like claiming God’s power is obselete too. Oh I forgot, it is. No more revelations, no more ordinances, no more priesthood, no more anything, just some bogus claim about only needing God’s grace. Sectarian hogwash.
The temple was destroyed because it was desecrated by the people whochose to crucify their reedemer, not because it was useless. The veil in modern day temples is symbolic of the atonement, by virtue of crossing through it, so it’s presence is not redundant as you claim. Proofreading my first comment has nothing to do with the fact that you continued to argue it, after it was clarified, you are being dishonest or you honestly don;t understand a word i’ve said, which is it?
” The fact that the veil was torn & the structure was destroyed in 70 AD is very telling”. Telling of what? Explain yourself for once.
Mormons will save America.
Their Business ethics
Their views on the family
Their patriotism
“It says no such thing, that is the simplistic conclusion you draw from it. The “others” I suppose will pop up out of thin air? There won’t be any tribes or people to form these future nations? ”
It says exactly that! Look at the text, the meaning is simple
“The “others” I suppose will pop up out of thin air?”
Yes, but only if the Nephites & Co dwindle in unbelief
If they toe the line there will be no others
It’s just a THREAT!
Don’t you even understand the BofM yet?
Holy Place, the Tabernacle of Moses contained the following areas and objects:
# The Gate
# Brazen Altar and the Tabernacle Sacrifices
# Laver (Basin)
# Menorah (Lampstand)
# Table of Showbread
# Golden Altar of Incense
# Holy of Holies and the Veil
# Ark of the Covenant
I wonder how Jesus took it when all of a sudden the Mormons stopped burning incense for him. It must have been a drag.
We are told over and over God does not dwell in a house built by hands of men. Jesus left the Jewish Temple Desolate to the nation for good cause. He overturned the money changers at the temple for good cause. And Josephus, A Jews Jew and a General says the Jews Earned their destruction. Read him. Now Polygamy is legal in Israel and soon a temple will be built and a Red Heifer slaughtered in it. Could this be the Abomination of Abominations? Was the Blood of Jesus enough for anyone?
” Who shall ascend into the hill of the
Lord?
or who shall stand in his holy place?”