www.youtube.com is a video describing how to learn more about the Mormon Church. In this video, Between Heaven and Earth, religious scholars of various faiths discuss the importance of temple worship from the time of Adam and Eve to modern man and provide a broad insight in the concept and need for temples. This clips shows LDS and non-LDS religious scholars talking about the doctrine of baptism for the dead by proxy, why it is done and its Biblical origin. Part 1 Mormon Temple and Ancient …
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sweeeeeet that means i dont have to accept jesus and when i die someone on my behalf can save me woohooooo!!.
hmmm can someone tell me what the whole point of jesus was?..obvioulsy its not jesus that saves- it a baptism.
this makes me siiik!
I think you are misunderstanding this doctrine. Baptism for the dead is done on behalf of those who did not have the full opportunity to hear and accept the gospel of Jesus Christ in this life. What do you think happens to people who never heard of Jesus in this life?
Baptism was a commandment from Jesus and only has meaning because of his sacrifice for each of us.
of course it was a commandment from jesus..but you have taken this to far.
God is an understanding and just God and no i dont thnk he would send someone to hell becoz they didnt hear the true message.
you cannot save someone once they are dead
Let me see if I understand you correctly:
1) You must be saved to go to heaven.
2) God is just and won’t send someone to hell because didn’t hear true message in this life (i.e. were saved)
3) Can’t be saved after this life.
Do you see the contradictions between #1 and #2, and #3? This doctrine explains it! God is understanding and just and therefore prepared a way that those people who did not hear the true message can hear and accept it! Right?
1) Correct
2) Im not 100% certain about this one
3) Correct
..now for #2, to be honest, I have not done enough research into this topic, but, who actualy knows? maybe this one part where God can have some understanding and know it was impossible for them to know about Christ- therefore he may grant them heaven..but really I dont know..Im leaning toward this one.
contradictions?..dont get me started on condridictions..would you like me to point out the diff btween mormon v christian?
You mention that you haven’t done much research into #2. I would encourage you to do that because the answer to that affects probably more than half of the people who have lived on the earth. Isn’t that a fundamental question then about the gospel of Jesus Christ?
You may not agree with Mormonism, but it sounds like you are starting to realize that there is a lot of legitimacy to this doctrine since it answers an important question that is not found elsewhere.
Simple!
You cant go back in time and relive moments of your life.
Every word, every thought is recorded.
Your eternal reward will be according to how you lived your life.
PERIOD!
In other words Faith without works is DEAD!
Ok I want to clear some stuff. Baptisim for the Dead is used for people that have deceased. The people that have died have made the choice to be baptized. We are baptized in their place for them.
We believe that if people didn’t have a chance to learn of the gospel and be baptised in this life should have an opportunity to do so in the next life.
Well stated.
If no one heard the word of the Gospel, these people are given a choice to hear it now. They can accept it or not. Read the Bible the Bapitsm of Dead is in all Bibles.
As far as question 2 the answer is no. God will not send someone to hell who has not heard his message. Everyone will have a chance to hear whether in mortality or afterwards. If not it would not be just. But God is merciful. We believe in a place where those who die without hearing go and are taught and can choose to accept or not from there.
I was the first speaker, following the opening song and prayer. The opening song was announced as The Time Is Far Spent.
My message today focuses upon the blessings of the temple, and I pray the Holy Ghost will illuminate our minds, penetrate our hearts, and bear witness of truth to each of us.
You have given olive oil and perfume to Molech as your gift. You have traveled far, even into the world of the dead, to find new gods to love.–Isaiah 57:9
you cant baptise the dead there dead and if lost in hell.the mormons are twisting the word of GOD and perverting it.i study the word of GOD so i know a lie when i hear it.this catholic guy is a liar also.JESUS said to call no man on the earth FATHER,because you have a FATHER in heaven.GOD said he dwells in temples made without hands,ie my body.not a building,thats why GOD destroyed the temple CHRISTS body.
I wish you could see how this applies to you. But like the pharisees of old, you are blinded.
Come of Christ and He can heal the blind.
The missionary transfer period also offers a mission president a special opportunity to motivate. President Monson reminded his audience that only the mission president transfers missionaries within his mission. Beware of the temptation to delegate that sacred duty to zone leaders or assistants to the president, he continued.
Let me ask you a question. What happens to that person in Africa who lived hundreds of years ago and never even heard the name of Jesus Christ?
He didn’t even have a chance to accept Jesus Christ as His Savior. Do you believe he is “lost in hell” forever?
Would a just God do that? Give one person the opportunity to accept the gospel and not another, and yet judge them the same?
I believe not. I believe every person will have the opportunity to accept the gospel.
You did not listen very well the the words spoken by these good men in the video. The atoning sacrifice of Christ was an act for those who could not act for themselves. Christ could very easily extend the ability for the living to do services for those who have died without the opportunity to do such work for themselves.
Marriage is an earthly ordinance, so Christ was explaining that after one is dead and resurrected, there will be no marriages performed. Marriages have to be preformed before the resurrection. It would be easy to misunderstand this passage because we only have a portion of the event as recorded in the NT. In the NT we are told that the scriptures were written by inspired men called prophets, and therefore, these scriptures must be interpreted by prophets — thank God we again have prophets.
You are confusing churches with temples. Churches are where we go to learn and gain spiritual strength, and once we are spiritually ready, then we go to the temple to advance even more spiritually. Since you do not have an understanding of the purpose of the Temple, you cannot understand this concept. Recall Christ went to the Jewish synagogue and to the Temple. Not everyone was allowed to go into the Temple, but most Jews could go the the synagogueto worship.
If there were no differences between doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ and current Christian religions, there would be no need for Jesus Christ to restore His church back upon the earth. I would therefore expect there to be major differences between Christ’s restored church and those of modern Christian churchs, just like there were major differences between the doctrines of the Jews and those taught by Christ. Differences between LDS doctrine and your doctrine does not make ours wrong.