A mormon convert to Jesus. Ex-mormon Steve talks about his coming to Jesus, and how he found that the LDS church is not true
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“If it’s true that the current Mormon prophet trumps all dead ones and what they say, then Benson’s talk in the 80′s is overruled as well as Brigham Young’s”
Are we hiding behind dead Prophets now to slander individuals Frank? The Point is valid. Before you use a dead Prophets talks to bolster your slander maybe you should make sure it is Church doctrine. As far as I know it is just another dead man’s opinion, that in the spiritual sense can be likened to yours.
It’s amazing how many leave the church and still believe it to be the only church with a fullness of the gospel. My dad being one of them. It is amazing how many people I know who had studied with every religion known to man and yet converted to the Mormon faith. It is amazing that Joseph Smith studied the bible daily with his family and knew the word of God yet didn’t just be what you regard as a Christian but in answer to pray restored the fullness of the gospel. Amazing.
It is amazing to me that people can be so blind and guided by the Devil, that they would even put an effigy of him on their temples, and would follow a gospel that he delivered to them even though they were warned ahead of time in the Bible. I am amazed that people would again put on the fig leaf pretending to be fruitful before God at the urging of the serpent, and would follow false Prophets and false Apostles, seeking the Baptism of FIre, yet it happens every day . Amazing!
If you have never left all things behind and followed Christ, made Him Number 1, you might underestimate the sacrifice people make and the bruising they get when leaving the LDS and coming to the Christ of the Bible. God bless you, Steve. But that sacrifice does not compare to the JOY of knowing the author of all TRUTH. LDS: Take a year and read nothing but the New Testament with an open mind & heart and ask God to open your eyes. If Steve can do it, then so can you.
How come when I see the Mormon General Conference, the speakers are so full of light and I feel warm and good inside…but when i watch you guys….the feeling changes to sympathy and your words are cold and unconvincing…Every time i listen to the conference…i feel it.
“How come when I see the Mormon General Conference, the speakers are so full of light and I feel warm and good inside”
Your “Apostles” are full of something but it isn’t light! You have accepted the bread and water fitting of the prisoner you are. A prisoner to the flesh and to sin. People like you also rejected Christ when He was in front of them and said He was a devil. Why would I expect any different in the end times just before His return? Your “feelings” deceive you.
“speakers are so full of light”
You are lost in the Flesh and betrayed by your “feelings”. You have been suckered by a bunch of greedy old men that sit like princes on thrones. They have taken the Word of God and changed it to suite their lusts and you have put up with it easy enough. True Apostles of God sold all that they possessed on this Earth and divided the proceeds amongst themselves to be used first to care for their own needs with the rest going to the poor. Is this your LDS Apostles?
Yes…the last description you gave DID describe the LDS apostles. Did you know this is the only organized church where it’s leaders ARENT PAID….They are the most humble men Ive met….how can I be betrayed in the flesh when every guideline this church has given me has steered me clear from alot of destructive things….Just look at all the good this church does to the world……
I just asked you a simple question. Your response seemed full of hate and of TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG that isn’t the spirit of Christ…!! Try looking on the intentions of a person like God does….doesn’t it say in joshua that God..looketh on the heart?
“only organized church where it’s leaders ARENT PAID..”
What an innocent lie you portray. Your “Apostles” receive millions of dollars in Salary for sitting on boards of directors for companies owned by the mysterious “Corporation of the First Presidency”. If these men had good hearts as you suggest then would they not sell all they have and give all they possess to the poor? How can they “Commune with Christ face to face” and look the needy in the eye each day? They are non-believing liars!
Should we coddle those who have hijacked the Word of God and put millions of people back into bondage? Christ overturned the Money Tables in the Temple. Should we not follow His example? You do not know Christ. You do not know the Word of God recorded in the Gospels. You follow a deceptive Spirit.
“Just look at all the good this church does to the world”
I am aware of the great evil they have unleashed on behalf of their god of this World.
Men with designer suits, million dollar homes, well groomed and clean shaven, million dollar salaries from the Corporation of the First Presidency, crisp and clean white shirts and ties, while members of the Church go hungry and worry about keeping the lights on, yet must pay tithe or they can’t enter the Temple. These are the men that are to teach the principles of Christ? Chosen by Christ? Speak with Christ “face to face”? Who sell all and give to the poor?
Of course they do!! I don’t see you contradicted God’s decision to call King solomon worthy when He was arguably the richest man in history….He was filthy rich and yet was deemed worthy by God….your argument about the apostles falls….They have the same rule as everyone else of paying tithing and giving to the poor…just cuz they don’t walk around dishing out dollar bills doesn’t mean they aren’t giving something to the world that money can’t buy.
The great evil? Do you realize how many families are kept together thanks to the doctrines and practices of Christ’s true church? How many other religions have marriage as an ETERNAL principle? None….their focus isn’t on the etenal potential of the family…..Do you even care how happy I am that I have loving committed parents who strive to have Christ in the center of their lives? Because they want to…not beccause it’s expected of them.
“How many other religions have marriage as an ETERNAL principle?”
This principle of eternal marriage called the “new and everlasting covenant” is plural marriage. I fail to see how this keeps families together. Here is part of that doctrine created by Joseph Smith. Jesus had to be married to get to heaven (D&C 132)
Jesus was physically begotten of the father (Oct 2007 conference, Jeff Holland, “The Only True God”, p574 Mormon Doctrine)
Jesus was a polygamist (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p 172)
“Do you even care how happy I am that I have loving committed parents who strive to have Christ in the center of their lives? Because they want to…not because it’s expected of them.”
So am I supposed to be happy for you that you are happy for the moment on this earth, but you will be suffering in anguish later when you find you have been suckered by the LDS Church into forfeiting your Salvation? Do you not see that you are tricked into eating the bread and water fitting of prisoners?
Tricked? I know what I believe. I choose to believe it because nothing else I’ve tried has given me this satisfaction and warmth. Anyone can find a fault about any religion…that part isn’t hard. But you can’t change how I feel about each one….words cant convince me to deny that what I’ve felt within the mormon church is better than I have felt anywhere else. As to your quote…..no man can be saved OR DAMNED in ingnorance. you have no permission or authority to determine someones afterlife
“I choose to believe it because nothing else I’ve tried has given me this satisfaction and warmth”
Keep going down the path u are going and warmth is what u will get! We should find fault with all religion. We are to be part of the Body of Christ and not a part of a religion.
“no man can be saved OR DAMNED in ingnorance”
Shutting the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. (Mat. 23:13-14)
Making converts twice as much a son of hell as the converters themselves are. (Mat. 23:15)
“you have no permission or authority to determine someones afterlife”
Mormon do just as you say I cannot do. The Authority I have to act in the name of Christ comes through the Cross of Christ. Mormons authority comes through the Angel of Light that sits on top of your Temple. IT is not I who condemns u to hell, it is your own Church. I am only warning u, which Christ gave me through the Holy Ghost the Authority to do. I cannot and would not condemn u. I do think u are silly though.
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“If it’s true that the current Mormon prophet trumps all dead ones and what they say, then Benson’s talk in the 80′s is overruled as well as Brigham Young’s”
Are we hiding behind dead Prophets now to slander individuals Frank? The Point is valid. Before you use a dead Prophets talks to bolster your slander maybe you should make sure it is Church doctrine. As far as I know it is just another dead man’s opinion, that in the spiritual sense can be likened to yours.
It’s amazing how many leave the church and still believe it to be the only church with a fullness of the gospel. My dad being one of them. It is amazing how many people I know who had studied with every religion known to man and yet converted to the Mormon faith. It is amazing that Joseph Smith studied the bible daily with his family and knew the word of God yet didn’t just be what you regard as a Christian but in answer to pray restored the fullness of the gospel. Amazing.
It is amazing to me that people can be so blind and guided by the Devil, that they would even put an effigy of him on their temples, and would follow a gospel that he delivered to them even though they were warned ahead of time in the Bible. I am amazed that people would again put on the fig leaf pretending to be fruitful before God at the urging of the serpent, and would follow false Prophets and false Apostles, seeking the Baptism of FIre, yet it happens every day . Amazing!
Saying Im Christian, just gives you the excuse to be lazy. “Im ok, I dont have to be that good of person, I am saved by grace” ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Which bible was he reading it out of? ha ha.
“I dont have to be that good of person, I am saved by grace” ha ha ha ha ha ha ha”
Can such a Faith save you? I think not!
You hear but you do not understand.
Glory hallelujah!!!
Awesome video..awesome example of the grace of God and HIS TRUTH. Let’s pray the LDS Church doesn’t attempt to shut this video down, too.
If you have never left all things behind and followed Christ, made Him Number 1, you might underestimate the sacrifice people make and the bruising they get when leaving the LDS and coming to the Christ of the Bible. God bless you, Steve. But that sacrifice does not compare to the JOY of knowing the author of all TRUTH. LDS: Take a year and read nothing but the New Testament with an open mind & heart and ask God to open your eyes. If Steve can do it, then so can you.
How come when I see the Mormon General Conference, the speakers are so full of light and I feel warm and good inside…but when i watch you guys….the feeling changes to sympathy and your words are cold and unconvincing…Every time i listen to the conference…i feel it.
“How come when I see the Mormon General Conference, the speakers are so full of light and I feel warm and good inside”
Your “Apostles” are full of something but it isn’t light! You have accepted the bread and water fitting of the prisoner you are. A prisoner to the flesh and to sin. People like you also rejected Christ when He was in front of them and said He was a devil. Why would I expect any different in the end times just before His return? Your “feelings” deceive you.
“speakers are so full of light”
You are lost in the Flesh and betrayed by your “feelings”. You have been suckered by a bunch of greedy old men that sit like princes on thrones. They have taken the Word of God and changed it to suite their lusts and you have put up with it easy enough. True Apostles of God sold all that they possessed on this Earth and divided the proceeds amongst themselves to be used first to care for their own needs with the rest going to the poor. Is this your LDS Apostles?
Yes…the last description you gave DID describe the LDS apostles. Did you know this is the only organized church where it’s leaders ARENT PAID….They are the most humble men Ive met….how can I be betrayed in the flesh when every guideline this church has given me has steered me clear from alot of destructive things….Just look at all the good this church does to the world……
I just asked you a simple question. Your response seemed full of hate and of TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG that isn’t the spirit of Christ…!! Try looking on the intentions of a person like God does….doesn’t it say in joshua that God..looketh on the heart?
“only organized church where it’s leaders ARENT PAID..”
What an innocent lie you portray. Your “Apostles” receive millions of dollars in Salary for sitting on boards of directors for companies owned by the mysterious “Corporation of the First Presidency”. If these men had good hearts as you suggest then would they not sell all they have and give all they possess to the poor? How can they “Commune with Christ face to face” and look the needy in the eye each day? They are non-believing liars!
“Your response seemed full of hate”
Should we coddle those who have hijacked the Word of God and put millions of people back into bondage? Christ overturned the Money Tables in the Temple. Should we not follow His example? You do not know Christ. You do not know the Word of God recorded in the Gospels. You follow a deceptive Spirit.
“Just look at all the good this church does to the world”
I am aware of the great evil they have unleashed on behalf of their god of this World.
DID describe the LDS apostles
Men with designer suits, million dollar homes, well groomed and clean shaven, million dollar salaries from the Corporation of the First Presidency, crisp and clean white shirts and ties, while members of the Church go hungry and worry about keeping the lights on, yet must pay tithe or they can’t enter the Temple. These are the men that are to teach the principles of Christ? Chosen by Christ? Speak with Christ “face to face”? Who sell all and give to the poor?
Of course they do!! I don’t see you contradicted God’s decision to call King solomon worthy when He was arguably the richest man in history….He was filthy rich and yet was deemed worthy by God….your argument about the apostles falls….They have the same rule as everyone else of paying tithing and giving to the poor…just cuz they don’t walk around dishing out dollar bills doesn’t mean they aren’t giving something to the world that money can’t buy.
The great evil? Do you realize how many families are kept together thanks to the doctrines and practices of Christ’s true church? How many other religions have marriage as an ETERNAL principle? None….their focus isn’t on the etenal potential of the family…..Do you even care how happy I am that I have loving committed parents who strive to have Christ in the center of their lives? Because they want to…not beccause it’s expected of them.
“How many other religions have marriage as an ETERNAL principle?”
This principle of eternal marriage called the “new and everlasting covenant” is plural marriage. I fail to see how this keeps families together. Here is part of that doctrine created by Joseph Smith. Jesus had to be married to get to heaven (D&C 132)
Jesus was physically begotten of the father (Oct 2007 conference, Jeff Holland, “The Only True God”, p574 Mormon Doctrine)
Jesus was a polygamist (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p 172)
“How many other religions have marriage as an ETERNAL principle?”
No true ones.
“Do you even care how happy I am that I have loving committed parents who strive to have Christ in the center of their lives? Because they want to…not because it’s expected of them.”
So am I supposed to be happy for you that you are happy for the moment on this earth, but you will be suffering in anguish later when you find you have been suckered by the LDS Church into forfeiting your Salvation? Do you not see that you are tricked into eating the bread and water fitting of prisoners?
Tricked? I know what I believe. I choose to believe it because nothing else I’ve tried has given me this satisfaction and warmth. Anyone can find a fault about any religion…that part isn’t hard. But you can’t change how I feel about each one….words cant convince me to deny that what I’ve felt within the mormon church is better than I have felt anywhere else. As to your quote…..no man can be saved OR DAMNED in ingnorance. you have no permission or authority to determine someones afterlife
“I choose to believe it because nothing else I’ve tried has given me this satisfaction and warmth”
Keep going down the path u are going and warmth is what u will get! We should find fault with all religion. We are to be part of the Body of Christ and not a part of a religion.
“no man can be saved OR DAMNED in ingnorance”
Shutting the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. (Mat. 23:13-14)
Making converts twice as much a son of hell as the converters themselves are. (Mat. 23:15)
THINK AGAIN!
“you have no permission or authority to determine someones afterlife”
Mormon do just as you say I cannot do. The Authority I have to act in the name of Christ comes through the Cross of Christ. Mormons authority comes through the Angel of Light that sits on top of your Temple. IT is not I who condemns u to hell, it is your own Church. I am only warning u, which Christ gave me through the Holy Ghost the Authority to do. I cannot and would not condemn u. I do think u are silly though.